[dmarc-discuss] What is the goal of DMARC? (was Re: How Can ESP's Adopt DMARC?) / problems with reject and lists

[Robert Schetterer]

Hi Monika, thx for report

Am 03.02.2012 22:47, schrieb Monica Chew:
> Just wanted to let you know that because of your DMARC quarantine
> policy, this message ended up in my spam folder because dmarc-discuss@
> breaks DKIM signatures (and of course SPF is unaligned or fails due to
> mailing list expansion). If you want to participate in dmarc-discuss@
> and want to reach recipients hosted by a receiver who implements DMARC,

> I suggest you do it from a domain that does not publish a quarantine or
> reject policy.

no i didnit,my dkim and spf are ok for years now ,as well the reflector
reported no dmarc problem and reject policy,but i saw , that mail to
some lists get broken ( not all ), by report from google, possible by
forward
or wrong handled by list software or simply googles check stuff dont
works right, i changed to quarantine policy now, which should help
i hadnt time to investigate more yet, but this issue should be checked
anyway, cause its a real "stopper" for using dmarc with reject

to list: are there any other people to have the same issue?

Regards Robert

> 
> Thanks,
> Monica
> 
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Robert Schetterer
> <robert at schetterer.org <mailto:robert at schetterer.org>> wrote:
> 
>     Am 02.02.2012 17:59, schrieb David F. Skoll:
>     > On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 16:43:01 +0000
>     > Franck Martin <fmartin at linkedin.com <mailto:fmartin at linkedin.com>>
>     wrote:
>     >
>     >> While I think fixing the MUA is good. I think one of the axiom of
>     >> this group is to work between MTAs regardless of what MUAs do.
>     >
>     > OK.  Then we need to examine the goal of DMARC.
>     >
> 
>     i see it in line with other exist/upcoming tools
>     in a general more rising reputation kontext in www
>     for sure it s not the answer to all questions
>     but it can help building abuse report network channels
>     for sure with mail things are very special, on the one hand
>     mail is good for reputate stuff , on the other hand
>     loosing/bouncing importend mail is allways risk
>     in the eyes of most users, but in the end ,
>     filtering out "black sheps" ( which here means "do not care of my
>     network/ips/apps" ) is highly needed these days
> 
> 
>     --
>     Best Regards
> 
>     MfG Robert Schetterer
> 
>     Germany/Munich/Bavaria
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MfG Robert Schetterer

Germany/Munich/Bavaria